Strawberryland Forum

Full Version: The Spam Thread!
You're currently viewing a stripped down version of our content. View the full version with proper formatting.
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651
(01-28-2020, 08:18 AM)cpd2009 Wrote: [ -> ]Going to be running some benchmarks tonight. I used Geekbench 5 Tryout.

CPU: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/1096992
GPU: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/compute/470303

Now here is the scores for the Inspiron 5675 with identical CPU:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/1061214

And it's GPU... or something close to it. Results vary between RX 580 vendors.
https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/compute/468770

I will do a heat test on Greta next. I'm curious to see how hot her CPU gets and whether my concerns are valid.
Ryzens are known for being multi-core monsters I must say. Though for some reason game code seems to be more or less biased towards Intel but given how they're only slightly slower compared to when they're running off a Core i7, the lower frame rates are largely negligible in practical terms.
Just got done doing the heat test on Greta, and it doesn't look good. CPU temp gets around 75C with the highest temp at 79C in HWInfo 64.

Here are her Geekbench scores BTW.
CPU: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/1097398
GPU: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/compute/470469
That definitely doesn't look good. Maybe dusting the vents off would fix the issue somewhat?
I'll give that a shot. If that doesn't help, then it's likely the insides also need dusting, but I'm not that good at opening up laptops besides user accessible slots.

Perhaps I could use that as a convenient excuse to get that Motile? Tongue
I think that quick dusting did the trick. Took an air duster and blew into the side vent. A whole bunch of dust flew out the vent and bottom intake fan.

I left a browser tab set on this forum page to stress the CPU, and now temps are hovering around the upper 50s to mid 60s Celsius, with the highest temp of 72C. It's a rather good improvement. The keyboard also doesn't feel too hot to the touch either.

Maybe I won't need that Motile after all.

As such, I'm starting to lean towards not getting that R7-1800X rig. Pearls specs are a bit dated now, but it's still capable of doing the tasks I need to do. I will only have around $650 to work with, so perhaps all Pearl needs is an SSD and different video capture hardware. If the Honestech software wasn't so buggy (seriously, taking the capture window out of focus freezes the program), I'd be able to get good capture quality with minimal or no frame drops. I'd like to try that Roxio device from Walmart, or if I'm feeling like spending a bit more, acquiring a PCI-e capture card.

There's also other things I'm thinking of using the extra money for, such as continuing to rebuild my retro game collection as well as a new stereo system for my bedroom. Tongue
(01-28-2020, 02:39 PM)cpd2009 Wrote: [ -> ]I think that quick dusting did the trick. Took an air duster and blew into the side vent. A whole bunch of dust flew out the vent and bottom intake fan.

I left a browser tab set on this forum page to stress the CPU, and now temps are hovering around the upper 50s to mid 60s Celsius, with the highest temp of 72C. It's a rather good improvement. The keyboard also doesn't feel too hot to the touch either.

Maybe I won't need that Motile after all.

As such, I'm starting to lean towards not getting that R7-1800X rig. Pearls specs are a bit dated now, but it's still capable of doing the tasks I need to do. I will only have around $650 to work with, so perhaps all Pearl needs is an SSD and different video capture hardware. If the Honestech software wasn't so buggy (seriously, taking the capture window out of focus freezes the program), I'd be able to get good capture quality with minimal or no frame drops. I'd like to try that Roxio device from Walmart, or if I'm feeling like spending a bit more, acquiring a PCI-e capture card.

There's also other things I'm thinking of using the extra money for, such as continuing to rebuild my retro game collection as well as a new stereo system for my bedroom. Tongue
Whichever fits your bill I guess, as long as it is more than capable of doing whatever you want given your hobbies and interests.
My taxes are done, and I should receive my refund sometime after the middle of February. The Earned Income Tax Credit gets delayed due to some anti-fraud check the IRS now does.

I have finalized my plans for the tech goodies I'll acquire with said refund. I will stick to this plan because I really need to work on my indecisiveness problem.

For Pearl, I will get that 1TB SSD upgrade. I will research different video capture options as well. The candidates are either the Roxio device or the Dazzle DVD Recorder HD. There exists a Dazzle model that has hardware video encoding in the capture device, but it's made with Windows XP in mind. Win10 compatibility not guaranteed.

As for my Mac conundrum, It's safe to say that any Mac I get will be LowEnd. While researching potential candidates, it appears that modern iMacs have a problem where poor case design can cause dust to get stuck between the glass and LCD, creating ugly dark streaks that can interfere with picture clarity. More info here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/did...c.2122476/ iMacs also get issues with Retina displays getting pink edges or corners, again alluded to poor case design. That is unacceptable, and Apple doesn't seem to care. No wonder some Apple users are moving to Windows or Linux.

As for the LowEndMac in question, I have sights set on a small 20'' iMac from either 2008 or 2009. I will use said LowEndMac for audio recording (transferring tapes or records to MP3) and as a compact Windows XP retro PC. An Intel C2D would fit the bill for these tasks. The '08/'09 iMacs can take up to El Capitan, but I will roll them back to either Leopard or Snow Leopard and install a more up to date web browser like Leopard WebKit or Arctic Fox. These Macs can be had for around the $100 to $150 range in good working condition. They are rather easy to fix when you have the right tools and the patience.
So you ditched the Ryzen in favour of a used Mac then?

Well at least that Mac's far more serviceable than the nightmare that is the new iMac models which Apple greedily locked down to death.
(01-31-2020, 08:47 AM)huckleberrypie Wrote: [ -> ]So you ditched the Ryzen in favour of a used Mac then?

Well at least that Mac's far more serviceable than the nightmare that is the new iMac models which Apple greedily locked down to death.
I'm afraid so. I only will have around $670 as I mentioned, so that Ryzen rig will take up nearly 75% of that. I need to choose my purchases carefully and think hard about whether my current hardware setup will take me into the next year.

And you are right about the older Macs being more serviceable. I seen a video from OWC detailing the process of upgrading a 2007 - 2009 iMac. It takes lots of patience, but if you have the right tools and knowledge, you can pull it off, literally. The front glass is held on by magnets, and you use suction cups to...wait for it... pull it off. You then remove a series of Torx screws to take off the front bezel, and then carefully lift the LCD, while also disconnecting the various cords leading to the internals. Once that's done, you can upgrade to your heart's content. The older, pre-Retina MBPs are even more serviceable. All you do is unscrew the bottom panel and that's it. The entire chassis is workable from that point on.

There should be a way where user upgradability is maintained without sacrificing form factor. That may mean making laptops thicker again, but in this never ending quest of making the thinnest and lighest laptop, something bad is going to happen again. With the Galaxy Note 7, Samsung tried to cram a powerful battery inside a thin phone, and those batteries started exploding. MBP's a few years ago were prone to thermal throttling because of the thin case and poor cooling. There's also Bendgate too.
Beginning to make space for the future iMac-retro-thing. I will place it in one corner of my bedroom.

I'll have to do a bit of re-arranging, moving my gaming TV to the opposite side of the room and moving a bookshelf or two. I will then have to acquire a new computer desk from Walmart. Pearl's desk is one of these, which you build yourself.

As for Pearl's SSD... I do have a question. Would it be better to just get a smaller SSD (around 500GB or so) for a boot disk, and just use her existing 1TB WD Black as storage? I wonder how long an SSD would last if it were just the sole disk in a PC. If I were to start editing video on a more consistent basis, would that shorten an SSD lifespan if it were the sole disk?
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651